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You upset people obviously do not know how to use what you got. Yes, a dear friend went on the cruise out of Galveston, now her sister is going.

I use mine if I want my regular week, trade out within the company, donating to my church and church school for fund raising events. I also started a small business. This summer two families are going to Orlando. I rent weekends also.

This summer going to Galveston, July 4th. Two weeks in Gatlinburg through RCI; later in August will go to northeast Texas for two weeks and take my little one to his second Cowboy game in Jerry's fab stadium. Get it together and enjoy.

Had offers of extra $ for fun @ my timesh. I sell Cowboy tickets.

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Anonymous
#349926

Went to the one on Canyon Lake this weekend what a joke. Finally ended up standing on a chair and yelling at them to give me the gifts and let me out of there. Never again.

Anonymous
#147237

An additional update from my previous posting.

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My wife and I went to Silverleaf (The Villages) on Tuesday, 18 May 2010, for an Owner's Update meeting (standard 1 1/2 hour (right!)). The draw?? $150 (one hundred fifty dollars) CASH!!

Dana was our 'initial' contact (tag-team member). She said that we HAD to tour the property, so we spent about a half-hour riding around and ooohing-aaaahing. Then we went into her office. She put us at ease by asking questions...when we said that we could NOT afford to buy, she said that she was required to 'explain' some stuff to us. So we allowed her to continue.

She said that ‘DIAMOND’ owners represented 10% of all Silverleaf owners while the other categories (Presidential, Lodge, Condo, and Cabin) represented 90%. Then she asked us WHO (which category) would get first response back from Customer Service. We said, “Diamond?” and she replied, “Yes. That’s why it is SO IMPORTANT to be a DIAMOND owner.”

She also went through ‘PLUS’ program….blah, blah, blah. We kept trying to tell her that we couldn’t afford it…the ONLY way we could get an extra week is IF Silverleaf would give us the property AND zero maintenance. And more blah, blah, blah. We explained that we had a Presidential with ZERO maintenance fees and would NOT buy any property with any type of maintenance fee.

She finally came to her LAST couple of points. If we wanted to get a RED-week Lodge, Silverleaf could let us have one for $36K (thirty-six THOUSAND dollars!!!)…50% down ($18K) and $500/$600 per month (PLUS maintenance fee of $69).

But, if we wanted a RED Presidential, we could buy one for $68K (sixty-eight THOUSAND dollars), with 50% down payment ($34K) and monthly payments of $1000/$1100 per month (PLUS maintenance fee of $89 per month).

NOTE: Monthly payments are given as rough approximations, only.

We told her again, NO, we can’t afford it. So she said that she would get her boss and have him ‘talk’ with us.

After about 15 or 20 minutes (it seemed longer), Mr. Dave Cortez, Member Services Sales Manager, came in. He basically restated all the stuff Dana had told us, albeit somewhat more concise. We again said, “We can’t afford to buy. The ONLY way was if Silverleaf gave us a property for FREE to include ZERO maintenance.” He sort of scoffed at the idea, and said (more or less) that Silverleaf doesn’t give out ZERO maintenance. Then we told him that we had ZERO maintenance. He looked disbelievingly at us and then turned to the computer. I’m guessing that he pulled up our account ‘cause he then looked at the computer disbelievingly. He asked us how we managed to get ZERO maintenance. We told him that a Member Services person at Holly Lake was so intent (desperate?) on upgrading us from a cabin at Lake O’ The Woods that she offered us ZERO maintenance fees AND ZERO percentage rate on the loan if we upgraded to a condo at Holly Lake (which we really couldn’t refuse). AND, that we had insisted on and kept ZERO maintenance fees ever since. Finally, he said that he wanted to check the computer to see if there was any way he could find us property so that we could become DIAMOND.

Another 15 minutes or so passed. He returned, saying that he thought that he found something that might interest us. He opened with a RED Lodge for $9999 ($5,000 down payment and $300/$400 per month…with maintenance fee). We again stated that we couldn’t afford it.

Then he came out with the piece de resistance (or so he thought). He said that Silverleaf had a property (BLUE Cabin) that had been returned to inventory because the owners had passed away and the non-payment of maintenance fees caused the property to come back to Silverleaf (or something similar). He said the property was priced at $8000 ($4000 down payment, $XXX monthly payment, with $46.50 maintenance fees). However, he said, if we would buy the DIAMOND Plus Program for $5995, he would throw in the property. AND, he brought out a magazine for ??? (Camp Out America or Go Camping America or ???), a camping program where you can rent sites for $4 to $8 a night. He said that if we would pay the $89 to transfer the ‘program’ ownership from the dead couple to us, that he would also throw in the membership (unfortunately, I can’t remember specifically which camping program/magazine was proffered, but I remember the $4 to $8 per night for sites).

OK, we again told Mr. Lopez that we couldn’t afford to buy any additional property. We were in the process of liquidating our assets (selling our house and getting rid of our stuff), buy a pop-up camper, and becoming road gypsies. He said that the DIAMOND ownership was imperative for us to guarantee that we could really enjoy using Silverleaf’s RV sites (not all resorts) and combining it with our Endless Escape. Again, we said, No. He then gave us his business card, wrote Dana’s name, and told us that when we had sold our house, we should give him a call and see what was available at that time.

They finally let us go. Our “90-minute” owner’s update meeting had turned into a 2 ½ hour meeting. We went to the front desk, retrieved our voucher, and then went to the Registration Desk (check-in) and exchanged our voucher for $150.

So, there it is, folks. YOU must remember that these sales people are NOT your best friend and they do NOT have your best interests in mind. The ONLY way they get paid is by COMMISSION; the only way for them to get COMMISSION is to SELL property—at any cost (NOTE: You will pay the cost, so they really don’t care as long as you BUY!). Remember that YOU are in the driver’s seat and YOU control their pay.

As long as you say, NO, they do NOT get paid. NO matter how many times they ‘push’ you to buy, NO matter how many ‘deals’ they tell you---JUST SAY NO!

Just make it (perservere?) through the 90-minute (or 2-hour, 3-hour or sometimes longer) presentation (a typical ‘dog and pony’ show) and then walk away with the money. Don’t be ‘tricked’ or ‘shamed’ into buying!!!

CAVEAT EMPTOR (BUYER, BEWARE!!!!!)

Anonymous
#147052

You MUST do your homewoek BEFORE you walk into these sales meetings. I sold timeshare many years ago.

The timeshare business is the same then as it is now. The "perks" have changed, but the basic contracts are the same. You know when you get the call to come out to the resort if you can afford to join a program or not. The simpliest way to speed up the sales pitch is to simply write down how much you can put down at that moment and how much you want your monthly payments to be...including the maintaince fee.

Do this as the salesman is going on and on. Or if you are truly NOT interested...and don't care about the incentive they lured you out with...simply get up, walk out of the office...go to receptionist and ask to speak to a manager...NOW!!! Explain you are truly not interested and its not what you thought it was going to be and politely ask for you ID back and go on your merry way.

On a personal note, because I am an owner: Silver Leaf isn't a bad scam.

You just have to know what you are getting into, business wise. RESEARCH IT ONLINE...HAVE KNOWLEDGE BEFORE YOU WALK IN. We have used this program several times and haven't had a bad experience yet. We don't travel around the world.

We use it as an extended weekend get away. My bestfriend and I have driven down to the Villages in Dec, using bonus time, stayed one night and on the way back..stopped at the outlet mall to Christmas shop.

When my son graduated bootcamp in Jan, we transfered our week, for the $75 transfer fee, to Fox River in ILL.

As I stated before, you will need to decide if 1: this is something you want to do and can afoord, and 2: how you will use the program.

Anonymous
Mount Vernon, Maine, United States #146648

I cannot believe there are so many people who do NOT know any better than to fall for this scam, it's sad how those who fell for their nonsense are "so proud". I guess that helps them sleep better at night, slivercrap is one of the lamest scams out there and anyone should be able to recognize their silliness right off the bat!

Anonymous
#145548

Well my husband and I are new members, and I am excited because we have traded our week with RCI. Next year we will lodge in a villa in the Dominican Republic for 179/wk.

Now to me that's awesome when all we have to do is pay for flights. Looking forward to it.

Anonymous
#130777

Folks...my wife and I have a red Presidential at Galveston with ZERO MAINTENANCE fees---for life. Our four adult children are also on the deed, so they will not pay MAINTENANCE FEES for their lives...one of our grandsons has the same name as I, and HE will never pay maintenance fees. Of course, we're hoping and praying that Silverleaf will remain in business for 50 more years.

We started out in a blue week (52) at Lake 'o The Woods (1BR/1BA (with loft) cabin, then upgraded toa 2BR/2BA condo at Holly Lake, then upgraded to a 2BR/2BA lodge at Holiday Hills in Branson, and now a Presidential at Galveston.

ZERO maintenance...and one of our upgrades was with ZERO percent on the loan...and, we have a $10 pet deposit.

Be SMARTER than those salespersons...they are NOT your best friends...their sole purpose is to SELL property to you so that they get COMMISSION checks.

NEVER, EVER feel sorry or ashamed about how much 'time' they take with you (it's their JOB)...take the cash/prizes and the FREE FOOD and tell them (politely?) to take a hike.

FYI...maintenance fees run about $70 (??) a month...X 12 (month) comes to $840 per year...X 20 (years) = $16,800.

Anonymous
#130776

Folks...my wife and I have a red Presidential at Galveston with ZERO MAINTENANCE fees---for life. Our four adult children are also on the deed, so they will not pay MAINTENANCE FEES for their lives...one of our grandsons has the same name as I, and HE will never pay maintenance fees. Of course, we're hoping and praying that Silverleaf will remain in business for 50 more years.

We started out in a blue week (52) at Lake 'o The Woods (1BR/1BA (with loft) cabin, then upgraded toa 2BR/2BA condo at Holly Lake, then upgraded to a 2BR/2BA lodge at Holiday Hills in Branson, and now a Presidential at Galveston.

ZERO maintenance...and one of our upgrades was with ZERO percent on the loan...and, we have a $10 pet deposit.

Be SMARTER than those salespersons...they are NOT your best friends...their sole purpose is to SELL property to you so that they get COMMISSION checks.

NEVER, EVER feel sorry or ashamed about how much 'time' they take with you (it's their JOB)...take the cash/prizes and the FREE FOOD and tell them (politely?) to take a hike.

FYI...maintenance fees run about $70 (??) a month...X 12 (month) comes to $840 per year...X 20 (years) = $16,800.

Anonymous
River Grove, Illinois, United States #100853

I recently bought into a timeshare with SilverLeaf at the Irving location. I was helped out by a young lady, Melissa.

She did an excellent job explaining the program to my husband and I, and was very friendly and knowledgeable. Last weekend we took the kids out to The Villages for the weekend and they had a blast! We had a wonderful vacation and look forward to all the beautiful memories yet to come!

We would recommend this program to any family that cherishes the time that they have together.

Two thumbs way up!

:zzz

Anonymous
#75673

Silverleaf is an excellent resort you dont know how to use it,by from them and enjoy !!!!! :grin :cry :x :roll

Anonymous
#72806

I've got 3 of those dang units that you can buy me out of!

Anonymous
#72399

Ditto Karen, at one of their free upgrade visits I informed the company I had lost my job and was concerned about making the payments. they held us hostage via our drivers license for 4 hours while they attempted to sell me and my wife an upgrade.

By the end of the meeting I was yelling at them so loudly they finally returned my drivers license. I told all of the people in the room they were idiots if they purchased.

I recorded the entire conversation, and found literally 213 discrepencies between what I was told and the actuality of the contract. BEWARE BEWARE BEWARE they are selling you a crock of ***, not to mention hidden fees, dues, changing lenders, etc.

Anonymous
Kersey, Colorado, United States #71304

You can buy ours if you are that happy with yours. We have had nothing but lies and trouble from this company

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